PROFESSIONAL INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES: WATER=BOARDING THE ONE SURE FIRE METHOD OF GETTING A SUBJECT TO TALK

UPDATE: Thursday June 3, 2010. "Speaking to a crowd in Grand Rapids, Michigan on Wednesday, former president George W. Bush told onlookers that his administration did in fact waterboard alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and suggested that his action saved American lives. LINK

George Bush admits waterboarding 9/11 mastermind - and he'd do it again

Al-Qaeda mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed shortly after his capture in 2003 / AP Source: AP

GEORGE Bush has admitted that 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded during his administration, and he wouldn’t hesitate to give the order again. LINK

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PROFESSIONAL INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES: WATER-BOARDING THE ONE SURE FIRE METHOD OF GETTING A SUBJECT TO TALK

Sometime back a photograph was flashed around the world of a fat-bodied religious cleric, slumped over in his chair looking as if he had been up all night. He looked to be wearing a pair of bib overalls made up of a furrow of back, and shoulder hair that stuck out of the over sized neck-slit in his Thobe style pajamas. The subject in question was an Al Qaeda sympathizer and contributing member of their Muslim fundamentalist-zealot hate machine, his name was Khaled Sheikh Mohammed. When captured he had a letter from Osama bin Laden, stuck inside his pocket, leading some officials in the government both here and there to think that he the Sheikh might know where bin Laden was hiding.

The day he was placed in front of the world’s camera, it was around two weeks after his real capture; after all, to tell the world of his capture would have caused most of his jahadist good-buddies to crawl under the nearest rock, and just lay low for a while. Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, however wanted to project a masculine posture while in the Jahadist world, He strutted around in a flowing dark Bisht, hung loosely over his thobe, which is the under shirt that is so typical of Arab men’s dress; Underneath all this he would have worn a pair of sirwal or white underpants. However, when first interrogated the most reverent cleric Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, was reported to have been wearing a pair of over sized ladies panties; one would wonder if he knew Rosie O. Do you think the thought ran through his mind about his mother stopping him at the front door that fateful morning, and telling him to wear clean underwear, just in case the Americans captured him? After being captured, the sight alone of the Sheikh standing there in skin tight light-blue colored panties decorated with tiny yellow smiley faces, and the words “It’s Wednesday and I’m in the mood” printed across his back side would have been cruel and unusual punishment in its self under most if not all international treaties. Surely that alone most likely was a violation of the laws and customs of war.

A legend and bad ass in his own mine, Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, wanted to play the macho warrior. However after a reception with some professional Intelligent Officers working out of Egypt, the Sheikh unloaded what knowledge he had of Osama bin Laden, and gave up all his boys in the Jihad religious-hood. Sheikh Mohammed, liked to brag that the interrogators had to water board him five times, just to get any information from him. In reality one trip to the slant-sled lasting less than ten seconds found Khaled Sheikh Mohammed coughing up the goods on everyone he ever knew. Remember the 2002 bombing of a nightclub in Bali by extremist religious freaks, where they murdered 202 innocent people? Well Sheikh Mohammed, gave up the most wanted man in Asia who was a highest-ranking Al Qaeda terrorist in Indonesian named Hambali, also known as Riduan Isamuddin. This Jahadist killer was a top prize and the authorities immediately turned him over to the CIA. Sheikh Mohammed also gave up many other of his confidants in the Middle East, and Europe. In reference to Khaled’s water-boarding one CIA officer who was there said, “He,” Mohammed “didn’t resist. He sang right away. He cracked real quick.” Mohammed spilled his guts about a planned attack on Los Angles. Boy would that have upset Glover, Penn, Whoopie and the other military bashers. They would have been screaming their liberal rears off if someone had harmed their delicate little bordello of slime.

All countries worldwide, who are signatories to the United Nation Convention Against Torture, have agreed to certain prohibitions on torture. To summarize this quote “International Law,” unquote in as few a words as possible says in effect that under “----no exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.” Many of signatories also subscribe to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights have also agreed to the fifth article of the document which states that, “No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.” Further more the United States subscribes to Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 113C, § 2340 Prev § 2340, Definitions; something to the following.
(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;

(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from— (A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering;
(B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality; (C) the threat of imminent death; or (D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality; and

(3) “United States” means the several States of the United States, the District of Columbia, and the commonwealths, territories, and possessions of the United States.

Certain members of the State Department, the CIA, and personnel with in the United States Department of Defense do not subscript to practice of collecting intelligences via the procedure known as water-boarding. Most of these critics spout the same rhetoric that water-boarding and or other “Enhanced Interrogation Techniques.” produce only what you want to hear. Now what does that mean? What we want to hear is what is going on inside their ranks, etc., correct? Well water-boarding contrary to what you have heard being propagated by the liberal anti-military sexual intellectuals’ works and it works one hundred percent, every time. One naysayer lie is that one of the most elite military units in the United States Military has banned water-boarding in their training because it is ineffective. Bull Manure! It is alive an well in specialized schools for hard core, balls to the wall super warriors who are awash in testosterone. Many have failed this portion of the course as it is a demoralizing event that causes special operational personnel to some time loose sight of their abilities. I am not chastising these warriors with that statement at all. What I am trying to point out is that everyone fails this test. There is an inherent fear of drowning, and water-boarding brings out this most basic fear.

It is very simple. Just lay the subject on a board, a bed, a table, or on the ground tilting his head downward. Cover the subject’s eyes tightly, tie his hands, arms, and legs securely and immobilize his head. Stuff a rag, sock, towel, or his own underwear down his throat until he or she gags. With his head immobilize and inverted slightly, eyes covered, and a mouth full of underwear one should begin by pouring a rivet of warm water on the cloth in the subject’s mouth. Continue by having a fellow interrogator pour water very gently over his chest or lower extremities, but not forgetting to pour water slowly over his face and mouth. There is an instant sensation of drowning, and the average length of time a subject can hold out is less than fourteen seconds. Again, there is an inherent fear of drowning buried in the deepest realms of our mind.

In reality, there are certain things that work, and work really well. A recent conversation with some high-ranking military personnel and myself drifted to torture. One of the men agreed with me, but elaborated both his and my feeling jokingly. It is time to come clean when you see the bad guys bring out a portable Honda electrical generator, a bucket stuffed full of wet rags, about twelve feet of speaker cord attached too a set of alligator clips designed to not slip off a wet scrotum sac when properly applied. That is the point where I ask for a stack of Big Chief writing pads, the largest box of Crayola available, and about three dozen sharpened number-two lead pencils. When asked why by the interrogators why I need so much writing material I am going to tell them to pull up their chairs, get a extra box of recording tapes near by because I am going to tell you stuff, and draw you pictures of stuff that you ain’t going to believe. Now that may be a little bit of a stretch, but you will talk, and you will tell all when put in the hands of a trained interrogator.

As I said most of the critics that spout the same old rhetoric that water-boarding and or other “Enhanced Interrogation Techniques.” produce only what you want to hear. Once more Bull Hockey! You hear that same old crap-trap diatribe from the liberal media and whinny ares leftist do-gooders. Almost to the person it comes out as, ".....when you torture someone they only tell you what you want to know." You miss guided simple minded dumb-masses [say that quickly three times] do not have the slightest idea of what you are blubbering about.

Of course they will tell you what they want you to know. They will also tell you what they do not want you to know as well. They, you, I, almost 99% to the 'man' will give up their darkest innermost secrets. They will sell out their mother, their father, and their religion. When you are stripped naked, and tied down on a cold metal table, and the interrogator walks in with a pair of lopper-shears, an ice pick, a pair of needle nose pliers, a foot pump hooked to a five gallon bucket of chilled Saline brine, and a stainless steel probe for injecting the icy fluid up your anal canal, YOU WILL tell the interrogator everything he want to know.

United States President George W. Bush signed an executive order on July 20, 2007, which banned torture during interrogation of terror suspects. These guidelines for interrogating a subject did not specifically ban water-boarding. The executive order did refer to torture as defined by 18 United States Code 2340, which includes in it wording "the threat of imminent death," as well as the fact that the U.S. Constitution also bans cruel and unusual punishment.

updates: THURSDAY JANUARY 21, 2009. PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA SETS THE TONE FOR A NEW POLICY ON UNITED STATES PROCEDURES WHEN IT COMES TO ENEMY COMBATANTS AND TORTURE..

updates: TUESDAY APRIL 21, 2009. PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA STRIKES DOWN WATER BOARDING, FACE GRABBING, HITTING, MAKING VERBAL THREATS, USING INSECTS ie: putting a Wolly-worm Caterpillars in a cell with a Muslim Terrorist, AND OTHER FORMS OF "ABUSIVE TREATMENTS." T(I am laughing my ass off with the Muslim Terrorist at this along with you.----TRUE DIRECTIVE)

The best I remember all these very forms of control were used by Sister Mary Louisa, against me and my friends while we were in school. She did not water-board any of us, mainly because she may not have known of this tactic. She would however pick us up from our chairs by pinching a chunk of our ear between her forefinger and thumb. Sneak up behind us, and whacking us in the back of the head with her open palm was common place. Smacking your knuckles with a wooden ruler rated right up there with open palm ruler slaps. Showing us how to milk a mouse using our little finger, taught breath control while reciting a dozen Hail Marys full of Grace.

Now that was terrorism. Do you think I have grounds to sue the Pope?

Newt Livesay

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WHY WOULD GEORGE CASEY LIE ABOUT FORT HOOD

Why is everyone so set on saying Major Hasan the Muslim terrorist who murdered over a dozen innocent unarmed people and and attempted to murder thirty-one others acted alone.

Even Chief of Staff Army George Casey is trying to cover his incompetence with a litany of politically correct untruths, but what is the big deal when you work for liars.

George Casey, U.S. Army chief of staff covering his politically correct job. “Frankly, I am worried,” said Casey. “It would be a shame — as great a tragedy as this was — it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well.”

“...It would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well.” Sounds like the real world of Muslim fundamentalism, don't ask don't tell, racial issues, green house gases, and bad breath might impede the social experimentation of the PC crowd with their Guinea Pig control group; the military.

Chief of the Staff of the Army George Casey, is trying to cover his incompetent PC rear and culpability in the terrorist attack that lead to the murder of over dozen unarmed people at Fort Hood, Texas. George Casey's culpability can not be overlook when you understand the facts related to jihadist Muslim Major Nidal Malki Hasan murderous attack. Casey is morally responsible as well as numerous other in the military, and they should be brought up on charges and made to stand in front of a court martial board of review. Casey is a despicable officer, and a disgrace to the uniform of this country, and he and others need to be removed from the services.
Casey and so many other of the PC crowd are devoted followers of the Barack Hussein Obama II apparatchiki. They stumble blindly just to feed at the feet of their Czar masters and cull some small favor from the first Muslim born President of this Grand Republic. You remember Obama he is the same man who called Sarah Palin a “pig,” and gave two other political candidate the middle finger. In other words he told Senator's Hillary Clinton, and John McCain to go self fornicate themselves. He also scolded anyone who used his middle name [Hussein] during his candidacy for the presidency of the United States, but used it when he was sworn in as president.

His dislike of whites, even though he is supposedly half white, raised by whites, schooled by whites, and shepherded by white liberals to become the Manchurian Candidate against this Republic. This is the same Obama who let his true feeling be heard with a Freudian slip when he said. "I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry," Obama said. "Number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. And number three ---- what I think we know separate and apart from this incident ---- is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately, and that's just a fact."

This is the kind of person that Political Correct has given us and the kind of person that Casey is afraid to confront. Saying anything about Muslims such as the jahadist army Major named Nidal Malki Hasan is immediately condemned by a well organized army of community organizers who scavenge the internet, books, television, our tweeter and YouTube post, and our very speech, and other forms of communication like maggots on putrid flesh. They one aim is to discredit, demean and destroy the reputation, and fortunes of anyone that does not tote the appara line. Casey is just one of them.

Eric Himpton Holder, Jr. the current Attorney General appointed by Barack Hussien Obama II, is the first Black American to hold that office. Holder knew that the FBI and the Army CID had evidence that Major Hasan was a jihadist seeking a relationship with the terrorists Osama bin Laden, and Al Queida. Other officers that worked with Hasan were afraid to say anything about his hate speech against the military and the United States for fear of being called a racist, bigot or something worst. People in these FBI and the Army CID knew of Hasan's actions but they also were afraid to say anything that might bring retaliation by Holder or other Obama cronies. Holder said “hate crimes do not protect whites,” while speaking to Congress. Simply asked. What does that does that mean? Does that mean anyone wounded or murdered by Hasan was done so out of love. He did not hate the white service men that he shot? I wonder if any of them were Muslim?

Check out more of Eric Holder's thoughts at the Patrick Cleburne Hate Crimes Series at Vdare.com.

Recently the Commander of the U.S. Naval Academy said “diversity was the top priority.” The high command of the military has turned against this Republic. Their loyalty seem to be to the bureaucratic masters whose feet they they grovel before. They have lied to us and the coming coverup of Hasan and his Muslim connection to terrorism is their top priority.

We are being systemically duped by a lying, thieving gaggle of bureaucrats that have let our Republic be taken over by enemies of both our nation, and our culture. Traitors, illegal aliens, third world drug cartels, third world criminals gangs, terrorist, Muslim jihadist, home grown looter, spoilers, zombies, loafers, and cowards abound. If you speak up you will be shouted down for being a racist, or a bigot. What if Hasan's name was Rafferty, McCellan, Smith, Jones, Gore, Humphries, Johnson, Snider or some other “white European” sounding name?

Would their be a coverup? I do not think so.

Triton Moreno

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ARE WE RUNNING WITH SISSORS?

So one of two things can happen. You can ignore the warning, tell me I am wrong, gripe about it and do nothing. Alternatively, you can — as if so many others have already chosen to do — face the facts, and prepare your self for the coming fall of this nation if something is not done quickly. Your decisions are going to affect you. Whether you believe in a conspiracy or not led by the patchouli-doused Communist named Barack Obama, and the feces-laden Democrats party thing are going to get a lot worst. One of the biggest problems we have right now is the coming crime wave when authority breaks down.

Maybe we should look at how a country in South America overcame the same problems. There economy was in shambles, and the Socialist / Communist were quickly making inroads into the government. .

The former 45th President of Peru, Alberto Ken'ya Fujimori took on a government that was not only near ruin, but faced an inflation rate of over 3000 percent, and an enemy within. Although President Fujimori tactic are still embroiled in controversy one has to give credit to his accomplishment. (1)

President Fujimori is credited with uprooting the terrorist organization known Partido Comunista del Peru (English: The Communist Party of Peru) but more commonly known as Sendero Luminose or the Shining Path. Shining Path was a Maoist guerrilla terrorist organization founded in Peru that was bent on destroying Peruvian government, and replace it with a Communist Dictatorship. There means of protest was setting bombs in cars, in and around government facilities without any considerations for civilian deaths. They targeted police officer, military personnel, clergy, doctors, political figures regardless of their status.

Fuji, as he was fondly known stabilized the Peruvian economy to a macroeconomic stability. Fujimori actions cut the flow of Cocaine (Peruvian Flake) to the United States to a trickle thus shifting the illicit activity to Colombia who seemed to be more sympathetic to the drug cartels. He either imprisoned the top leaders and founders of Shining Path or killed them making their movement irrelevant. Although controversial in his methods, he did what had to be done to stabilize the country and its fragile economy. Numerous leftist front groups and liberal human rights groups have accused his administration of violating the human rights of thousands. One should remember that some of these allegedly violated peoples were criminals who had been detained for numerous terrorist acts, and murder. I am not making excuses for the Fujimori’s government or his tactics. What he did was bring a nation back form totally anarchy to a productive democracy that was and still is friendly towards the United States. Fujimori’s government has been characterized by most leftist as being run by a political authorarianism system riddled with human rights violations. This emphasis on this form or system of government led to numerous human rights violations - - - But one must understand the politics of the time.

Drug money was rampant corrupting the political elect as well as influencing the non-elected law enforcement community, and in some respect the military. Daily bombing in the capitol of Lima were common as well as terrorist attacks on military and police outpost across the country. Shining Path was being financed by drug money, robbing banks, extortion, kidnapping, local supporters within Peru who wanted to overthrown the legitimate government. Also support was gained from the Socialist movements in both North, and South Americans. Larger financial influences from government entities such as Fidel Castro’s Cuba, Communist China, and Maoist sympathizers in Indonesia helped Shining Path continue their terrorist actions of devastation, and murder.

President Alberto Fujimori took it upon himself to surround himself with people who had the means and knowledge to correct the problems. Some will continue to point fingers at the Fuji government as corrupt and brutal. It was a WAR of survival for the nation of Peru. What is the different in the government that Alberto Fujimori took over and the government of the United States right now? Not much.

Peru: Fuji had a government and economy in near ruin.
The United States; “Ditto”
We have a government and economy that is on the verge of economic and moral collapse.

Peru: Fuji had an economy where money almost worthless.
The United States; “Ditto”
We have a monetary system that is coming apart. Right now, we are being propped up the Communist Government of China. They will call in the mortgage and then what.

Peru: Fuji had a corrupt political system within the elected officials:
The United States: “Ditto”
Just look at the political appointed thieves in the Obama cabinet that have admitted wrongdoing. Senator Barney Franks who was the Chairman of the Banking committee. He was having a romantic love affair with the man who was in charge of the very lending agency that he, Franks was the watchdog over. You do not think that was not a conflict of interests and a crime. Give you an idea of how sharp this guy is. He says he "did not know that his in house lover was running a male prostitute ring from his [Franks} basement, and this maggot is still a United States Senator? We have 535 other lected members of the United States Congress that have racked up the following accounts.

~ 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
~ 7 have been arrested for fraud
~ 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
~117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at leased 2 businesses
~ 3 have done time for assault
~ 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
~ 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
~ 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
~ 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
~ 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year
~ An possibly a man elected President who is not a United States citizen, but a foreign born national. If this is true under the Constitution of the United States this man can not even be President of this Republic. He will not provide his real birth certificate to be publicly scrutinized. WHY? Is he the Manchurian Candidate?

Peru: Fuji had enemies that were trying to overthrow the government.
The United States; “Ditto”
How about Al-Qaeda, and the assortment of Islamic Terrorist both worldwide and with in our nation. U.S. List of Terrorist Groups. Animal Rights Activist Groups Sympathizers and home grown terrorist such as the Weathermen and like minded groups such as PETA, The Animal Liberation Front (ALF) , and a myriad of other groups of malcontents and dangerous narcissistic home grown terrorist.

Peru: Fuji took on a country riddled with drug and drug cartels.
The United States; “Ditto”
The Mexican Drug Cartels are a major problem that most Americans have no idea how vicious these groups are. Want more? Go to You -Tube and Google the words Drug Wars! It will scare the hell out of you. Buy the video. This is real, and it is here in your town. It is right here. There is a major Mexican Drug Cartel working out of Benton Country, Arkansas, and it seems no one give a damn.

Fujimori did what had to be done. We as FREE men are being pushed up against the wall. What do we do, take the bandana over the eyes, smoke our last cigarette, and except total defeat and maybe the death of our nation?

The choice is yours. Throwing tea bags in the river is not going to get it. Telephone calls, letters, and email to your elected officials are a friggin joke my friends. They do not care. They are ALL to worried about lining there pockets with silver. Continue watching football games or American Idol; play with your Wii and Twitter away, this is the diversion they know you will take. Not all is well, and hard choices are going to have to be made.

We can hang one at a time, but they cannot hang us all at the same time. The moment may draw near when we will have to shed blood at the tree of Liberty.

Sweet Jesus when are we going to get off our apathetic asses and say enough is enough. It will take blood, sweat, and the cold shroud of the dirt over many of our souls to free this land. The Enemy is at our gates and here we sit on our asses and play our fiddles.

Triton Moreno

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(1) Ex-President Alberto Fujimori is currently serving a six-year prison term for abuse of power. He is also facing trial for numerous alleged human rights abuses.

(2) Update: Ex-President Alberto Fujimori has been sentenced to 30 years in prison.

(3) 11-8-09, This blog was moved, and re-edited as of the date above. Here are two original comment that I have moved with the post.
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Anonymous said...

Excellent analysis and comparison. I recently found your blog and enjoy reading your stories.

10:39 PM

Anonymous said...

Your sense of humor and style is forthright and refreshing. I like it.

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FIRST MUSLIM HYJACKING OF AN AMERICAN SHIP IN 200 YEARS

Wed Apr 8, 2009 11:07 am EDT, Reuters reported:
By Daniel Wallis
NAIROBI (Reuters) - Somali pirates hijacked a U.S.-flagged, Danish-owned container ship on Wednesday with 20 American crew on board in a major escalation in attacks off the lawless Horn of Africa nation, officials said.

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The 17,000 ton Maersk Alabama was seized off Mogadishu far out in the Indian Ocean, …… Read the complete Reuters report here.

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Commandeered by Somali Muslim Terrorist who had fully automatic rifle, and rocket propelled grenade launchers. The unarmed Maersk Alabama was carrying humanitarian relief aid for starving people in Mombasa, Kenya.. The ship was 400 nautical miles east of the Somali capital of Mogadishu at the time of the hijacking. The ship was the 511 feet (156 meters) Maersk Alabama, and it was the first United States flagged merchant vessel to have been hijacked in over two centuries.

The following is a reprint of an email sent to me on Saturday April 18, 2009, explaining what really happened. The ‘acronym’ used are for your reference and are provided courtesy of Rob Krott, author of “Save the Last Bullet for Yourself.” Rob is an x-military officer, professional soldier, author, and good friend of mine. I appreciate his impute.

Acronymn Key:
BHO - Barack Hussein Obama
CDR - Commander
DEVGRU - Naval Special Warfare Development Group aka SEAL Team 6 (counter-terrorism hostage rescue team)
NSWC - Naval Special Warfare Command.
OSC - On Scene Commander. The guy who makes decisions on the ground. He's supposed to have some leeway / authority. Not always the case.
RAdm - Rear Admiral
RIB- Rigid-hull Inflatable Boat; a rubber boat / Zodiac.
ROE - Rules of Engagement. When / If / How you can shoot a bad guy.

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RAdm Lou Sarosdy USN Ret. writes

The real story of Obama's Decision Making with the hostages.
Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and asking why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:

1. BHO wouldn't authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (on scene commander) recommendation.

2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE that they couldn't do anything unless the hostage's life was in "imminent" danger

3. The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the raggies all sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction

4. When the navy RIB came under fire as it approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions. As the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.

5. BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge CPN and SEAL teams

6. Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies

7. BHO immediately claims credit for his "daring and decisive" behaviour. As usual with him, it's BS.

Read the following accurate account.

Philips’ first leap into the warm, dark water of the Indian Ocean hadn’t worked out as well. With the Bainbridge in range and a rescue by his country’s Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat prison, enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his captors — and none was taken.

The guidance from National Command Authority — the president of the United States ,
Barack Obama — had been clear: a peaceful solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the hostage’s life was in clear, extreme danger.

The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was fired on by the Somali pirates — and again no fire was returned and no pirates killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by Navy personnel thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from Washington and a mandate from the commander in chief’s staff not to act until Obama, a man with no background of dealing with such issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a “peaceful solution” would be acceptable.
After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, the on scene commander decided he’d had enough.

Keeping his authority to act in the case of a clear and present danger to the hostage’s life and having heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer — unnamed in all media reports to date — decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the hostage’s life and ordered the NSWC team to take their shots.

Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands became enemy KIA and Philips was safe.
There is upside, downside, and spinside to the series of events over the last week that culminated in yesterday’s dramatic rescue of an American hostage.

Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama administration and its supporters claimed victory against pirates in the Indian Ocean and [1] declared that the dramatic end to the standoff put paid to questions of the inexperienced president’s toughness and decisiveness.

Despite the Obama administration’s (and its sycophants’) attempt to spin yesterday’s success as a result of bold, decisive leadership by the inexperienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort.
What should have been a standoff lasting only hours — as long as it took the USS Bainbridge and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the location — became an embarrassing four day and counting standoff between a ragtag handful of criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship.

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Authors addition
What authority does the United States Navy have to protect American shipping from these forebears of these same Muslim Pirates that menaced sea going travelers over 200 years ago? Thomas Jefferson clearly outlined where their authority came from:
".....…[O]ne cannot get around what Jefferson heard when he went with John Adams to wait upon Tripoli’s ambassador to London in March 1785. When they inquired by what right the Barbary states preyed upon American shipping, enslaving both crews and passengers, America’s two foremost envoys were informed that “it was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

update: 4.22.09. A number of the leftist/liberal Koolaid drinking news agencies have reported that this information is not a factual account of what happened. I stand by my blog, and my source.

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